Shabby Big Brother: opinions please
by Lemon Tart
I’m at a bit of a disadvantage here because I haven’t actually seen Big Brother yet. But my facebook homepage runneth over with Shabby opinions/ outrage/ anecdotes/ hysteria at the moment so I’m curious… BB viewers what do you think of Shabby?
All I know so far is that she’s a London lez. She’s 24. And her real name is Keeley. I also remember seeing her gigging when she was in a band called Voodoo Hussy. I have to confess, I didn’t rate them hugely- but maybe I caught them on an off day. I apparently took her pic the other week (see below) but I’ve never actually met the gal, so for the time being I’m open to judging her on meaningful future face to face (ie err screen) time.
Oh also probably worth remembering that she’s not to be confused with the following. No. Shabby is already a fully formed brand (like Cillit Bang or The Lady magazine), no doubt ready to be launched onto the starry world of England’s E-list celebrity circuit as soon as she leaves the house.
Oh yeah, as I mentioned, not to be confused with…
SHAGGY
SHABBA
THAT ONE OFF OF THE L WORD
SHAGGY
ANYWAY, please list your thoughts in the comments box below.
To get you started, here are some words from her Facebook fanpage‘s wall…
“She’s so hot ^^ x I need her number !”
“Well I’d gladly invite her to come sit on my face.”
“LOVE HER STYLE N HER PERSONALTY N SHE SO FIT ASWELL :)”
“SHE LOOKS LIKE SHANE!! OMG I love her!”
“LOVE HER!”
“I hate her”
Listen. Anyone who thinks it’s okay to say ‘What can I say? I get a lot of poontang’ and then question the phenomena of other people having jobs (for serious?) is a total wanker and is clearly okay with that. So great. More power to Shabby for going on TV, naming herself something that, by definition, means:
1: clothed with worn or seedy garments b : ungenerous, unfair c : inferior in quality
2 a : threadbare and faded from wear b : ill-kept : dilapidated
3 a : mean, despicable, contemptible
(Merriam-Webster dictionary)
…and giving lesbians in London a bad name. Great. As if we don’t have enough crappy representation as is.
Like Lemon Tart, I haven’t seen Big Brother 2010, and don’t usually watch it.
It’s interesting that Devil’s Food cake thinks that Shabby is giving gay women of London a bad name.
There have been several articles on this website that, in my opinion, have done exactly the same.
I’m openly gay at work and nobody has a problem with it, but some of the articles have been very embarrassing to share.
My colleagues have stated that those articles reiterate their ideas of lesbian stereotypres…
@Duchess…
I hate to be a bugbear and all but, do you think you might be able to leave it a few weeks before you post something else critcising TMC? It’s fair enough you have an opinion but so far most of what you have had to say about the site is that the writers are doing it all wrong. That’s fine ‘n’ all, but from a semi-outside perspective, it just looks like you’re trying your hardest to pick the site apart. All the girls at TMC work so hard writing and taking pictures and tracking down great musicians and making playlists and putting on parties and trying to stay as current as is humanly possible. They’re lovely, kind women and they don’t get a cent for doing it.
It’s simple; if you find our articles embarrassing to share, then don’t share them. If you think that we’re giving London lesbians a bad name, then don’t acknowlege us. Or do something about it – why don’t you start your own blog? Why not submit something to us?
Constructive critcism is great, but so much of your comment seems solely based on personal opinion and uses very little empathy. I hope this doesn’t come across as rude. As said before, you can email us at contact@themostcake.co.uk.
FC
Ohhh it is Shabby from that band. I remember her. Wore tops hats a lot a few years ago. I think she was at my uni briefly. Oh god, now I’m going to have to watch a bit of BB to see what she’s like these days.
I don’t actually comment very often and I’m not saying that every article is bad. There are some really good writers on here – like Lemon Tart.
I was merely pointing out that one can’t say someone is doing something wrong when they do it themselves. I’m just going by comments some people have made.
I’m not going to go into much more here as it doesn’t relate to the article, but perhaps it might be worth having a generic posting page?
Also, I have emailed TMC but never heard anything back…
Voodoo hussy is the band she was in. And i think she was slated for her crap on t4 once upon a time ! Most contestants on bb give a bad name to whatever they associate or identify as and shabby is no exception. Im glad they’ve gone for the carnival / fairground theme as it really is like a victorian freakshow !
@Duchess. Drop us another love. We couldn’t find anything with ‘Duchess’ on it – can you mention your posting name in the email? Anything constructive is always welcome :)
R.e – “Shabby”. By name, by nature. Ergh.
I actually find Shabby to be OK! Although I’ve only just started watching BB and she was quite lovely last night. I understand though that usually first impressions are awful. The contestants usually have to pretend to be awful in their introductory videos in order to secure a place in the show. A lot of the time they turn out to be quite different.
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I love her, I know many don’t but I actually do love her. She knows that she is hard to get along with, but doesnt get too carried away and be a bitch to everyone.
And compared to some of the lesbians there have been on bigbrother she is an actual saint, there have been so many worse than her. She could probably do with being less like shane (from the l word) and I hate to enforce stereotypes, but she is just like most of the gay women in my local gaybar. Mind you Im not from london.
i hate her, she tried to get with my girlfriend once. and she is an arrogant soho lesbian.
she also dresses like a twat – oh hello artful dodger/Ville valo
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Shabby seemed to have such promise. But she’s totally self-conscious and hiding behind that unmistakable Shane impersonation. She’s even started flirting with the Irish woman like Shane would, all deep husky monosyllables.She’s loving the late-night attention she knows she’s getting from the cameras. Little bit tiresome and already being described by those who voted against her as ‘fake’. Now Sunshine, I like …
I thought she looked abit desperate when she entered the house, but now things have settled down and we are getting to see her real personality, I really like her alot.
V.attractive too ;)
I’ve known her/of her since her days with Voodoo Hussy. Wouldn’t say she’s a bad person: she can be very nice, but she can also be rather ego-centric and extremely pretentious at times which seems to be coming through the onscreen. I’ve stopped watching because the group as a whole are annoying me.
I think shes pretty vile – she does give lesbians a bad name. When will they stop using ‘keraaazzzzzzzy’, hideous, scruffy, dirty hippy lesbians?! There are so many of us out there who actually are normal, and pretty much like everyone else.. if that makes sense? I know that BB just tries to choose the most insane nutjobs ever, but I honestly feel its really damaged the lesbian scene for people who maybe dont know any lesbians, or think they might be gay (im sure if this was me afew years ago, i’d be terrified that that would be me one day).
Does anyone else know what i’m trying to say?
oh, yeah, it’s the last BB ever. yay! thank god for the end of that load of twaddle.
Typical insecure lesbian. Just embarrasing. Another good reason why ‘they’ should be back in the closet instead of screaming for even more inequity and inflated liberal rights for the abnormal and sexually deviant.
shabby is articulate,incisive,and her analysis of her peers is spot on.the bb house has lots of mysogynists this year. halellujah ,there are women, and men like nathan ,that undermine that hatred with grace and aplomb, and wit.God bless them in the name of Jesus.ben is a horrible person.
Yes – pretty certain my comments will not get past the moderators as we are no longer allowed to say anything negative about sexual deviants [gays and lesbians]. Just know this, whoever is moderating … when the day is done you know it’s all really between you, your conscience and GOD! May God, Alah, Budda or whatever Supreme Being you believe in bless and forgive you.
Apologies for my wine filled fury. It’s clear this site is unbiased and will post comments from both sides of any argument. I also apologise for the unkind bluntness of my comments and sweeping generalisation about gay people.
We have a family issue right now and due to the insecurities and disgusting behaviour of my sisters evil lesbian partner we no longer have contact and I am ever more angry about it.
Shabby just acted like a carbon copy of ‘the evil one’ on BB last night. Manipulative, unkind and hetrophobic [if there is such a word - not according to my spell checker - well there is now]!
It is actually my opinion that there are obviously good and bad people in all walks of life and the gay community is no different. It just frustrates me so much that from the gay point of view so often sexually deviant people say that they feel oppressed or second class, where as to the majority of the rest of society it seems like those that are different from the normal are given more rights under our liberal, majority oppressive regime, want their cake and still want to eat it! Then nobody is allowed to say anything or they are pounced upon and down trodden for supposedly being homophobic when all they really are is; just as entitled to their own opinion and ‘same freedom’ to express it.
In fact my sisters partner seems to think being gay makes her superior to everyone else and that her opinion is always more valid, but then she has a misplaced superiority complex in any case. Very embarrassing as she is pretty thick too and often makes a ridicule of herself with badly informed comments and assertions. She’s just a poor advert for humanity, not just the gay community.
Shabby too seems to be hetrophobic, abusive and thinks she is superior to most of the straight house mates. While she does appear to have a modicum more intellect than ‘the evil one’ I have to deal with she is still pretty transparent and thus why I consider her to also be a poor advert for humanity and lesbians.
Still wishing you, at TMC, peace and blessings but please feel free to remove my comments as they don’t reflect my sober view point merely my anger, hurt and frustration.
@Femidom
We appreciate all comment here, Femidom, even if many of your points of view are quite hard for many of us to read. I can see from your apology that you acknowledge your sister’s partner is really just not a very nice lady to be around, and that her behaviour and seeming arroagnce has nothing to do with her orientation. I for one am glad you are able to distinguish these as two non-synonymous traits.
Gay people are still tortured and murdered for simple things like holding hands in non-Western countries, and even in the West, homophobia is still rife. Both of us will obviously have had very disperate experiences of discrimination, but I can assure you that being queer and out, even in cities like London, does not go without it’s perils. Of course no one wants to be considered ‘better’ or ‘more privillged’, but the system discriminates against everyone in part, except hetrosexual, white, middle-class, able-bodied males (who do, in fairness, have it pretty darn good). This idea that we have reached some kind of equality ‘peak’ is simply untrue, and as a social myth, is potentially very damaging.
However, I reiterate; you and I (and most of the people who read TMC) will have all had very different experiences when it comes to discrimination. I hope, for the sake of your happiness (and blood pressue), you can learn to accept and empathise with the wider experiences of us ‘sexual deviants’ ;)
There’s a bizarre amount of God going on in this thread.
Refreshingly frank – and, I think,, somehow, wonderfully female – discourse, beautifully resolved. I could do without being referred to as a deviant, but you have every right to use any word you wish. I am in a wonderful 22-year relationship, with a civil partnership under tentative ‘discussion’. I am very succesful in achieving positive outcomes with disadvantaged young people in a job I love, I actively practice and promote compassion and wisdom, I pay my taxes, cycle to work and there is nothing whatever deviant about me. If I were to act against my nature, none of the happiness I feel would be available to me. This is me, and you are you,.
Anyway, what about Big Brother? >>>
I’ve given up judging Shabby and am hugely enjoying the spectacle. She is annoying sometimes, but I I laughed so much in her Tree of Temptation task with Ben, specially the one-minute hug! And then there’s the husky, smoky voice, the f*cked-up hair, the carefully-designed androgyny, the hats, the ‘success’ (ha ha) with women (has Shabby got a Chart? Probably …) I bet in her neighbourhood they have a saying: “Every time Shabby walks in a room, some woman leaves crying.”
The L-Word series 6 isn’t available in the UK yet, and I’m feeling deprived of unfeasibly attractive ladies acting out their insecurities. Shabby will do nicely for now. Hope she grows up a bit and learns to be kinder, and quits thinking she’s in love after a fortnight, silly mare! I’d love to see her win, but think Josie might do it, or Corin? Can’t see ANY of the men winning. BUT, it’s early days. Ex-housemates coming in, gangs getting split up … September’s a long way off.
Shabby isn’t a proper lesbian. She was snogging my ex boyfriend a couple of months ago and he was hoping for a relationship with her! Also – she isn’t a squatter. She’s made that up to sound controversial.
who cares about Shabby, I got off with Keeva a month ago in Dublin…facto-malacto. Closet dyke.
I call them Shacaoimhe. Bit poisonous, they are.
OMG!
i absolutely love her she is hillarious the way she just flips over anything and doesnt care about what she says and who she says it to.
i mean the way she flipped over giving her hat! i mean that hat must of ment alot to her and she fought for it which in all honesty i would if done the exact same thing, she is hillarious, she has her own style, her own being and she isnt like all these fake sheeps you seeing walking around copying every little thing that beyonce or katy perry is doing.
shes such a ledgend its unreal!!!
She is copying every little thing that Shane does, for sure. Last night , while rallying the troops in the middle of the night to discuss how much Caoimhe fancies her, live , she sighed: “I’m used to getting every girl I want … I used to think I was a bit of a f**king Casanova. Now I find I’m just a f*king embarassment.” I so don’t want her to go. I might cry. I hope the drama keeps her in. But Caoimhe is the coldest, unwittiest, dullest, most repetitive woman on earth. She needs to go – Shabby must fly! Check out YouTube for Voodoo Hussy/I think You got it Wrong.
I agree completely with Black Cat. She’s similar to Shane but only in some ways and she’s hardly over-doing it purposefully. That anger’s coming from somewhere – I hope she figures out what she needs to get over to be able to control that fire more easily! But Caoimhe is completely unable to make a decision about a person and stick to it – she’ll say whatever’s most convenient to whoever’s listening. And to play Shabby around like that shows just how self-centred she is!
I hope Josie doesn’t let John James get to her and wins with her hilarious food analogies and happy ways!
Shabby should go back to the shire…
Its a lesbo car crash happening in front of my eyes!
I despise self-obsessed Shabby with a passion, perhaps surpassed only by my loathing of that self-adulating Caoimhe.
But I find it compulsively fascinating that so many fragile types go on the likes of Big Brother….. only to whimper and run home to mummy (or the squat or whatever) when the penny drops that they are being viewed “warts and all”. I know it’s self-inflicted, but I wonder if it is actually fair for Channel 4 to exploit people with such weak characters. Then I remember that they are all motivated by the thirst for media exposure, winning mega-bucks and ending up with their own chat shows and I again take pleasure in watching their individual downfalls!!
I literally cried when I saw the music video to her song Voodoo Hussy – How’d ya like that?
Was that with disbelief? Or for the pure hilarity?
Both!
I love her facial expressions, its pure class.
She is a very fake and pretentious person. Most of the people I know who have charisma are actually very selfish and are good at using people (often managing to cleverly give the impression that they’re caring about everyone else BUT themselves), or treating people like they are games to be played and won.
I’m now wondering whether she’s left because, like the time she attempted to climb up some amps whilst performing with her awful band, but chickened out before she’d got very far and climbed back down, she’s realised she just doesn’t have what it takes to stick out any challenge. Or whether she’s arrogant enough to think that she’s made a big impression and can safely back out but retain the cheap fame that comes with being a BB contestant.
I also thought that her mooning over Caoimhe was pathetic, especially how she kept putting Caoimhe on the spot. If someone’s in a relationship, they have every right not to be avidly pursued by someone who is supposed to be their friend. If someone tells you that they’re in a relationship, it’s to spare you both the embarrassment of trying it on with them, not to offer up some kind of competition! Especially with them being on television – if Caoimhe had even said something to Shabby that hinted she was interested in her (I’m not saying she was, I didn’t watch enough of it to make that judgement, although from what I saw she didn’t seem interested at all, and often just seemed uncomfortable when Shabby was spouting her feelings), she’d have to face the consequences on leaving the house. Shabby wouldn’t.
Also, like a lot of people who claim they can usually ‘pull’ anyone they want, I wonder who she’s aiming for. According to the points system, people tend to aim for someone who is on a similar place on the ‘points’ scale to them (in attractiveness). Most of the people I know who have lots of charisma and treat people as games, actually aim for people who are less discriminating themselves when finding a partner, or are obviously at least a few points lower on the scale. This increases their odds of success, and gives them something to brag about (yet another conquest). Yet, they’re more likely to really fall for someone a few points higher than them (or unattainable for other reasons – i.e. being straight, in a relationship, etc.), and then comes the dramatic love-sickness. Caoimhe is obviously a few points too high on the scale, as well as unattainable.
Spot on, Spootle. I cringe for her often. Especially her endless facial shenannigans, the pouting, the refusal to acknowledge that ‘kicking off’ is a choice, the awful immaturity. And yet, and yet … I miss her. I keep waiting for her to walk in the bathroom and check her look. She’s the only person on the planet who would apply eye-liner BEFORE going to bed.
Despite her faults, there’s something about her. After all, she’s LOOKING very Shane …. and she probably has a Chart. It’s only a matter of time before Kate Moennig gets wind of this London wannabe and disassociates herself. Let’s hope Shabby grows out of it. What on earth will happen when Caoimhe comes out? I can’t wait!
Oh! Forgot to say – whether you love her or loathe her, check out her latest YouTube indulgence – ‘Save Me’ by Shabby Katchadourian’. She seems to have made it after quitting BB.
And did you see her strange Hobbit-leaps with Davina last night?
Why do I keep talking about her? See, that’s the problem …
I blame Katherine Moennig. SHE’S the one that I want.
I know she can be arrogant, but all she has in life is herself. A few friends at the most. She’s homeless. Gets angry easily. The poor woman can’t get a break. No wonder she gets so irritated. I support her in everything :) xx
She has a home! It just doesn’t belong to her, apparently … And everyone can learn to control aggressive outbursts. It’s called growing up.
omg this is retarded who cares , someone refered to shabby as shane’
“similar to shane but different” same same but different
tut tut what retardness
…well i liked watching her on BB better then all the other boooring people in it